diff --git a/web/src/components/player/JSMpegPlayer.tsx b/web/src/components/player/JSMpegPlayer.tsx
index cf25c54c6..91cd3e1c9 100644
--- a/web/src/components/player/JSMpegPlayer.tsx
+++ b/web/src/components/player/JSMpegPlayer.tsx
@@ -10,6 +10,7 @@ type JSMpegPlayerProps = {
   width: number;
   height: number;
   containerRef?: React.MutableRefObject<HTMLDivElement | null>;
+  onPlaying?: () => void;
 };
 
 export default function JSMpegPlayer({
@@ -18,6 +19,7 @@ export default function JSMpegPlayer({
   height,
   className,
   containerRef,
+  onPlaying,
 }: JSMpegPlayerProps) {
   const url = `${baseUrl.replace(/^http/, "ws")}live/jsmpeg/${camera}`;
   const playerRef = useRef<HTMLDivElement | null>(null);
@@ -88,7 +90,14 @@ export default function JSMpegPlayer({
       playerRef.current,
       url,
       { canvas: `#${CSS.escape(uniqueId)}` },
-      { protocols: [], audio: false, videoBufferSize: 1024 * 1024 * 4 },
+      {
+        protocols: [],
+        audio: false,
+        videoBufferSize: 1024 * 1024 * 4,
+        onPlay: () => {
+          onPlaying?.();
+        },
+      },
     );
 
     return () => {
@@ -100,7 +109,7 @@ export default function JSMpegPlayer({
         playerRef.current = null;
       }
     };
-  }, [url, uniqueId]);
+  }, [url, uniqueId, onPlaying]);
 
   return (
     <div className={className}>
diff --git a/web/src/components/player/LivePlayer.tsx b/web/src/components/player/LivePlayer.tsx
index ffa1579dc..ae2940c36 100644
--- a/web/src/components/player/LivePlayer.tsx
+++ b/web/src/components/player/LivePlayer.tsx
@@ -172,6 +172,7 @@ export default function LivePlayer({
           width={cameraConfig.detect.width}
           height={cameraConfig.detect.height}
           containerRef={containerRef}
+          onPlaying={() => setLiveReady(true)}
         />
       );
     } else {
@@ -187,7 +188,8 @@ export default function LivePlayer({
       data-camera={cameraConfig.name}
       className={cn(
         "relative flex w-full cursor-pointer justify-center outline",
-        activeTracking
+        activeTracking &&
+          ((showStillWithoutActivity && !liveReady) || liveReady)
           ? "outline-3 rounded-lg shadow-severity_alert outline-severity_alert md:rounded-2xl"
           : "outline-0 outline-background",
         "transition-all duration-500",
@@ -195,52 +197,60 @@ export default function LivePlayer({
       )}
       onClick={onClick}
     >
-      <div className="pointer-events-none absolute inset-x-0 top-0 z-10 h-[30%] w-full rounded-lg bg-gradient-to-b from-black/20 to-transparent md:rounded-2xl"></div>
-      <div className="pointer-events-none absolute inset-x-0 bottom-0 z-10 h-[10%] w-full rounded-lg bg-gradient-to-t from-black/20 to-transparent md:rounded-2xl"></div>
-      {player}
-
-      {objects.length > 0 && (
-        <div className="absolute left-0 top-2 z-40">
-          <Tooltip>
-            <div className="flex">
-              <TooltipTrigger asChild>
-                <div className="mx-3 pb-1 text-sm text-white">
-                  <Chip
-                    className={`z-0 flex items-start justify-between space-x-1 bg-gray-500 bg-gradient-to-br from-gray-400 to-gray-500`}
-                  >
-                    {[
-                      ...new Set([
-                        ...(objects || []).map(({ label }) => label),
-                      ]),
-                    ]
-                      .map((label) => {
-                        return getIconForLabel(label, "size-3 text-white");
-                      })
-                      .sort()}
-                  </Chip>
-                </div>
-              </TooltipTrigger>
-            </div>
-            <TooltipContent className="capitalize">
-              {[
-                ...new Set([
-                  ...(objects || []).map(({ label, sub_label }) =>
-                    label.endsWith("verified") ? sub_label : label,
-                  ),
-                ]),
-              ]
-                .filter(
-                  (label) =>
-                    label !== undefined && !label.includes("-verified"),
-                )
-                .map((label) => capitalizeFirstLetter(label))
-                .sort()
-                .join(", ")
-                .replaceAll("-verified", "")}
-            </TooltipContent>
-          </Tooltip>
-        </div>
+      {((showStillWithoutActivity && !liveReady) || liveReady) && (
+        <>
+          <div className="pointer-events-none absolute inset-x-0 top-0 z-10 h-[30%] w-full rounded-lg bg-gradient-to-b from-black/20 to-transparent md:rounded-2xl"></div>
+          <div className="pointer-events-none absolute inset-x-0 bottom-0 z-10 h-[10%] w-full rounded-lg bg-gradient-to-t from-black/20 to-transparent md:rounded-2xl"></div>
+        </>
       )}
+      {player}
+      {!offline && !showStillWithoutActivity && !liveReady && (
+        <ActivityIndicator />
+      )}
+
+      {((showStillWithoutActivity && !liveReady) || liveReady) &&
+        objects.length > 0 && (
+          <div className="absolute left-0 top-2 z-40">
+            <Tooltip>
+              <div className="flex">
+                <TooltipTrigger asChild>
+                  <div className="mx-3 pb-1 text-sm text-white">
+                    <Chip
+                      className={`z-0 flex items-start justify-between space-x-1 bg-gray-500 bg-gradient-to-br from-gray-400 to-gray-500`}
+                    >
+                      {[
+                        ...new Set([
+                          ...(objects || []).map(({ label }) => label),
+                        ]),
+                      ]
+                        .map((label) => {
+                          return getIconForLabel(label, "size-3 text-white");
+                        })
+                        .sort()}
+                    </Chip>
+                  </div>
+                </TooltipTrigger>
+              </div>
+              <TooltipContent className="capitalize">
+                {[
+                  ...new Set([
+                    ...(objects || []).map(({ label, sub_label }) =>
+                      label.endsWith("verified") ? sub_label : label,
+                    ),
+                  ]),
+                ]
+                  .filter(
+                    (label) =>
+                      label !== undefined && !label.includes("-verified"),
+                  )
+                  .map((label) => capitalizeFirstLetter(label))
+                  .sort()
+                  .join(", ")
+                  .replaceAll("-verified", "")}
+              </TooltipContent>
+            </Tooltip>
+          </div>
+        )}
 
       <div
         className={`absolute inset-0 w-full ${
@@ -257,9 +267,12 @@ export default function LivePlayer({
       </div>
 
       <div className="absolute right-2 top-2">
-        {autoLive && !offline && activeMotion && (
-          <MdCircle className="mr-2 size-2 animate-pulse text-danger shadow-danger drop-shadow-md" />
-        )}
+        {autoLive &&
+          !offline &&
+          activeMotion &&
+          ((showStillWithoutActivity && !liveReady) || liveReady) && (
+            <MdCircle className="mr-2 size-2 animate-pulse text-danger shadow-danger drop-shadow-md" />
+          )}
         {offline && (
           <Chip
             className={`z-0 flex items-start justify-between space-x-1 bg-gray-500 bg-gradient-to-br from-gray-400 to-gray-500 text-xs capitalize`}
diff --git a/web/src/components/player/MsePlayer.tsx b/web/src/components/player/MsePlayer.tsx
index cb0340ebc..54b924456 100644
--- a/web/src/components/player/MsePlayer.tsx
+++ b/web/src/components/player/MsePlayer.tsx
@@ -328,7 +328,9 @@ function MSEPlayer({
 
           setBufferTimeout(
             setTimeout(() => {
-              onError("stalled");
+              if (document.visibilityState === "visible") {
+                onError("stalled");
+              }
             }, 3000),
           );
         }
diff --git a/web/src/components/player/WebRTCPlayer.tsx b/web/src/components/player/WebRTCPlayer.tsx
index 1e5e209d9..3baf26d19 100644
--- a/web/src/components/player/WebRTCPlayer.tsx
+++ b/web/src/components/player/WebRTCPlayer.tsx
@@ -238,7 +238,9 @@ export default function WebRtcPlayer({
 
               setBufferTimeout(
                 setTimeout(() => {
-                  onError("stalled");
+                  if (document.visibilityState === "visible") {
+                    onError("stalled");
+                  }
                 }, 3000),
               );
             }